tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899696.post1241880007050554526..comments2023-10-18T02:56:27.711-07:00Comments on Jennifer Roback Morse: Compromise on Religious Liberty and Same Sex MarriageJennifer Roback Morsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08328491226267765655noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899696.post-90464685852644742352009-02-27T16:28:00.000-08:002009-02-27T16:28:00.000-08:00FIRST POINT: Heterosexual "marriages" pe...FIRST POINT: Heterosexual "marriages" performed by civil authorities (a justuice of the peace etc.) are NOT considered to be "marriages" blessed by God by either Catholic churches (Roman & Anglican), most protestant denomination, or Jewish congregations. Because these religions and their adherents acknowledge and respect secular state laws does not mean they are obliged to recognize civil heterosexual unions as "marriages" in the religious sense. As such, "civil marriages" are acknowledged as LEGAL but not "blessed".<BR/><BR/>SECOND POINT:<BR/>Gay "civil unions" will be recognized by the aforementioned religions and their adherents as "klegal" but will NEVER be recognized as "blessed by God" simply BECAUSE they are "civil unions" performed by secular representatives of the state empowed to "perform" such unions.<BR/><BR/>THIRD POINT:<BR/>"Holy Matrimony" and "blessed marriages" always have been, are and always will be "the way" these religions and their adherents "marry" in one another's eyes. The secular state CANNOT force religious institutions to embrace the secular perspective on this issue.<BR/><BR/>FOURTH POINT:<BR/>Homosexual Catholics, Jews and others who wish to have their "civil unions" recognized as "holy matrimony" would be well advised to target their appeals to the clergy of whatever religion they consider themselves to be adherents of.<BR/><BR/>FIFTH POINT:<BR/>Never engage in semantic argument or clarification with those who can neither spell the word nor understand/acknowledge its etymology or dictionary definition.<BR/><BR/>SIXTH POINT:<BR/>Literacy sure ain't as widespread as it used to be.<BR/><BR/>And BTW, I am a homosexual who has been in a monogamous relationship for over 20 years. We are both "theists" (look it up!) who are comfortable with the religious perspectives of others, including those represented within our own familiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899696.post-13763421170186244462009-02-24T17:01:00.000-08:002009-02-24T17:01:00.000-08:00The No side denies but the case of Catholic Charit...The No side denies but the case of Catholic Charities and adoption proves them wrong in Massachusetts.<BR/><BR/>And, as the pro-gay briefs in the cited court case in Massachusetts has amply demonstrated, Dr J has it right and the above commenter has it wrong.<BR/><BR/>The man-woman criterion of marriage does not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.<BR/><BR/>It is tiresome when SSMers misrepresent the Bible and repeat falsehoods in the name of their allegience to gay identity politics.Chairmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485251953071927097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7899696.post-55738417582214496082009-02-24T12:45:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:45:00.000-08:00Much like the many many false pro-Prop 8 ads, what...Much like the many many false pro-Prop 8 ads, what you are saying is just not true. You cannot identify a single way in which "religious liberty" is threatened by same-sex marriage.<BR/><BR/>The misleading ads implied that becuase gay marriage was legal in Massachussetts were forced to teach about it over parents' objections. Did you actually read the legal opinion in that case? The reasoning had nothing to do with the Mass Supreme Court's gay marriage decision.<BR/><BR/>All the other cases had to do with discrimination against people for being gay, and again, had nothing to do with same-sex marriage.<BR/><BR/>Same-sex marriage is about legal benefits and social equality. It's not about telling you (or anyone else) what to believe. You're entitled to your own beliefs. You're even entitled to believe they come from your belief in the Bible, even though they do not.<BR/><BR/>People should exercise their religious liberty by focusing on themselves and how quickly they will find solace in deceit in order to advance their cause. "Thou shalt not bear false witness..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com